Let’s talk about the “left” activist that partook in the Capital protest while pretending to be a MAGA supporter, also let’s talk about the leaked employee meeting at Twitter in which CEO, Jack Dorsey, says “this is just the beginning”. When referring to the alleged infamous “social media purge”.
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Good morning, good afternoon or good evening, depending on when you are tuning in. My name is Jonathan Torres Herrera and you are watching or listening to The JTH Show today. Lets talk about BLM also part of the Capital Protest question Mark. And Trump Only the first in the line of the social media Purge but First roll the intro.
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Welcome back to the show. So excited that we are at episode 85 and that long ago I was Only at episode I so it’s pretty cool. A now of course we have our, our usual, a guest slash now to become a co-host Josh Lambert on the show as well. Thank you very much. I feel like I’m at home now. I feel like I could just kick off my shoes, put my feet up on the couch. It’s great. Thank you. Yeah. And I mean, it’s supposed to be like that man is supposed to be a, you know, hopefully a show where a lot and then grow to where we have people and different points of views. Of course now you’re you’re as a host here, but eventually we’ll have some, some people that will come on as gas and give their points of views and when they will get superstar in here as well, and yeah, it’s going to be a whole bunch of fun.
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Right. But with that said let’s jump into the News and by the way, before I forget, of course you guys can catch the episode where that’s right on Spotify, Apple podcast, Google podcast, or radio public. We’ve actually had an increase in downloads. So thank you. So I know a lot of you guys are actually going in there and you know, catching the episode on the audio format instead of the whole YouTube thing. Okay. And with that, let’s hop into the first story. And that is something that I personally find worrisome. I have mentioned it before. I know that some of you guys are going to be like, Oh my God, JTH again. Yes. Again, because it’s serious guys.
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It is. It’s not world ending. No, no, no, no, no. I’m not going to be dramatic about it. But if you guys haven’t heard already what I’m referring to or we’ll refer it to is, you know, plays along with the little stinger clip there you saw in the beginning of the show in that is a way for those of you guys Only hearing on the podcast, it has to do with the CEO of Twitter Jack Dorsey. Now I’ve talked about Jack before, because he’s had a few meetings, a column, right hearings with a, the Senate or a Senate hearings or what not they’re in there in the wind. They’re questioning what he censoring and stuff like that. And I, you know, I’ve punched him a little bit ’cause to me, it sounds like, you know, he’s there just, just because he has to be their, first of all, unlike Mark Zuckerberg, who has also joined him in those meetings, you know, he, the guy is more prepared, right?
0 (2m 56s):
Jackets I you know, like the rebel kid, like, Hey, it’s my freaking company, which by the way is not wrong. Right. In the United States, at least if you have a company and you have proper legal terms of service terms of use, whatever you want to call them and your users, right. Agreed to those terms, then they are at, you know, whatever legal, right. They have two to ban U to kick you off to a platform to quote unquote sensor you. That is actually not entirely my problem today, although I’ve been saying it, right. And in that video there, you can hear him say things like, you know, this account, by the way, he’s mentioning or he’s referencing to Trump right.
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Trump has been recently pretty much also just a parlor, completely annihilated from social media, right? In all their accounts, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, I mean, Trump has pretty much gone off the internet. Right. And you know, Jack is like, Hey, this is not, the only account is just a First account. I will give him yet again, credit because I do stand very much in the middle of a pretty much everything. And while I will punch a guy, you know, I we’ll also give him, you know, the benefit of the doubt that it is possible. That is going to be more context to what you know, or more than what we saw in that clip. But one thing is earned in the, he is saying, this is just a First account, meaning they’re Purge right.
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As I’m calling it, we’ll continue Alice on their platform. And typically what we have seen before is that we won a Pat form, does something the others tend to follow right behind. Right. It’s almost like they work with each other, even though they also denied that when they were in their, in their hearing. Right. They’re like, no, no, no. We’re independent. Sure, sure. Yet legally independent. Yeah. But of course we have seen that now with LIFE parlor. And we’ve seen that with now, with Trump R and, and there’s been other people, you know, that have been been in one in all of a sudden there’s like this, like, you know, domino effect, right. Tim pool, by the way, another guy that I’ve mentioned before, also a suffering is similar fate. Right? We’re all of a sudden he’s feeling like his stuff is being throttled.
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Right? So anyways, Jack now as the voice of Twitter is saying, we will continue doing that at this, this, this is the beginning. That’s not the single problem that I want to refer to today. That goes along with this article coming out of the TNC, that News true. North article headline, Trudeau, government promises to sensor quote, unquote offensive social media content in 2021, the article reads in part that your dog, the government will introduce a new regulations to combat quote unquote offensive content in haste on social media in 2021, according to a document from a department of Canadian heritage obtained by a black law, a black box and report, the government promises new rules to scrub and Twitter of content.
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It deems offensive. I’ve said this before. I don’t like any content that panics people. I don’t like to really a deep dive and take conspiracies too, too, you know, personal or for that matter, you know, give them to me much validity. Here’s the issue. This is on paper. This is no longer just somebody saying, you know what I think Trudeau is going to do? No, no, no. This has been officially released. This is no longer saying, I think Jack thinks like this. This is where seeing a video of Jack himself.
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That’s a different from saying this is a conspiracy. I think, I think I, you know, this is my theory to now seeing in our paper or on video, Ryan leaked. So claim whistleblowers release the video, right? And, and that is a problem that I will entertain right now, only as, as someone that is trying to get some information, getting some of you, hopefully to use that critical thinking. This is me trying to reach out to people and say, this is going to happen. Now you are right now at home listening to this might be like, I don’t care, dude. They’re not going to send you a Me. That’s what I thought. And some of you guys know is this right?
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Because you guys, hopefully we may, hopefully haven’t seen this show for a while. Maybe you haven’t. I been myself throttled and censored. I lost an entire account that, you know, our team works so hard to grow on Instagram out of nowhere. No, no email. No, no, no, no. A little a notification bale saying, Hey, don’t do that. No, just one day our team tried to go in there to continue posting gun. That was the, the official, the, the JTH Show like I do with everything, all the other social media. Now we have to go and redo another one with JTH Show dot or dot, whatever the Dutch Show. So I lived it. Here’s a guy by the way, that probably not too long ago, felt like, Hey, as long as I’m not too controversial and proclaim, right aside in terms of political views, I shouldn’t be censored wrong.
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Right. That is the way that is. At least my take of what I feel happened to my account. Right. Can one day. And so Graham, you know, when we do grow the Show to maybe a few million followers, so I want to answer a Grammy like, Oh my God, we just totally figured it out. That was a bug. Sure. Nothing that I’ve been told right now, no one reached out to me. I’ve tried every Avenue you can think about to get Instagram. I even mess up Mark Zuckerberg. Not that he would ever see that message, but you know what I’m saying? You know, Hey, you know, at, at the long crazy shot a hammer, obviously one of his maybe assistant see this, I don’t know why I lost my account. It’s the unseen. But anyways, my point is this guys, why is this a problem?
0 (8m 59s):
Not because I think that people that you know are bad actors that are plotting, you know, dangerous things against of the people. Shouldn’t be, umm, you know, taken down no, by all means that is not my problem. Here’s my problem. As I was telling my team right before the show we were prepping, the problem is when you have governments, like in this case, a Trudeau government or any other world government, including in the U S saying, we are going to put it together. Some people, you know, six people, 10 people, 100 people, you know, whatever you want a thousand people, whatever it takes to center, write to a Our, as they say, offensive content and hate speech.
0 (9m 39s):
What’s a problem with that. Well, let’s consider that we have somebody working within that team, Mary or Jack whatever male or female doesn’t matter. She is a, a, a, a devoted Christian. And I mean, devoted, like does not miss mass. Even if she had a COVID she’s going to go to a mass, right? She feels that anything that’s against or in her, by the way criteria, the Bible is offensive. She’s part of that team, because technically in many countries you cannot discriminate right? Based on religion or sex. So she gets a job and she lands a job being one of these, you know, a censor police, whatever agents she comes across your profile and you share something that you may be showing too much cleavage.
0 (10m 24s):
And you know, you LARPs a person that says Oola LA, I like these knockers, whatever she looks at you. And you’re like, Hmm, strike one, Bobby strike one. Okay. Or Mary, you know, one of these outside, what are the calm toxic us in Mexico? Right. Share something. That’s really funny. Ryan says I hit my husband and she’s like, ah, okay. All right, Mary strike one, Mary. Okay. What’s my point, guys. I am being hyperbolic, of course. But what’s my point. When you have people that have biases inherently, we all do. By the way, I’m not accusing you or you are, you are, you are you, I have a bias, you have a bias where a human, which I find offensive, it’s going to be different than what you find offensive.
0 (11m 7s):
It might be similar sometimes, but most of the time is going to be different. Right. So I don’t like what Josh put yesterday. I have a job at the Trudeau government in a monitoring offensive accounts, Josh. Sorry. I don’t like bye.
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All of my three follows my mom, my dad, my sister, you know, all gone. It’s I don’t know. It’s a tough one because I think the whole premise of like the social media thing, it was all, we all know it was kind of like that unspoken agreement or, well, it was in the T’s and C’s and stuff like that. It’s like, you know, if everyone just be cool, if everyone is cool and just report stuff that might be offensive to people, that’s fine. You know, there is a lot of offensive stuff to me online, you know, but you know what, the amazing thing about technology is and like accounts and stuff like that, they do not force you to have those accounts. They, you can turn off your phone.
2 (12m 6s):
You don’t always have to look at it. You can turn off the notifications unless it’s for their Show. And yeah, I mean, is there is the option of light. You don’t have to consume that content. I feel like there are, there is a kind of like that culture of people that are actually looking for stuff. They, they want to be offended in some ways they need to kind of have that kind of a cheesy me, that, that kind of drama in that LIFE, you know what I mean? Which is, it’s not always the case that there is a lot of dangerous stuff online as well. You know? There is a lot, I mean, that stuff, of course. Yeah. That should be policed in some way, but like you said, should Mary or Jack be in charge of what is considered tasteful, what is considered, you know?
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Correct. And again, that’s just because you were offended, it doesn’t mean that you are correct.
0 (12m 56s):
Wow. I’m actually going to put down, Oh my God, I’m going to put that in a cup. I like that right now, what we use, this is just because they are offended as a mean you’re correct. I like that. So listen, on top of that, even if someone were to tell me, right? Cause I’ve had it’s conversations with, you know, with people obviously, you know, off the camera and in different social groups, I’ll be like, Oh, you know, a lot of the times there’s just an algorithm. A company will put together, are you, are you, are you, you know, excuse me, but you Boone the head. That course worse for all of the same people buy the way that in some times the same sentence, we’ll be like, Oh, the one AI around me, I don’t want robots to take over my life will say, Oh, it’s okay. It’s an AI. It’s going to be a, you know, an algorithm, you know, a short of an AI that will just police me in a computer is, and I’d be like, I don’t find that as a fact about you have, you know, what the hell is wrong with you?
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You know what I mean? You like, in my opinion, by the way. So if somebody wore or to still be listening and say, well, JTH, what’s that, and what’s the answer. I’ll tell you what the answer. If you are going to be that stupid, to put something where again, not when it comes to applauding something dangerous, I condoned that. I do not support that. I want to make sure that I’m clear as I can be. I do not support any of that crap, but you are going to put something stupid out there, right? If you are going to do anything around ’em I don’t know if, you know, even in something that’s, you know, that close to being racist or bigoted or a sexist joke, right. Then you know what, you’re going to be held accountable to that one day and you might not like it.
0 (14m 26s):
Right? It, it, it, it’s one of those things that it goes along with like your driver’s license, right? And I’m going to try at least to reason with some people right now you have a lot of, you have had a driver’s license for years. A lot of you guys bragged that you had a driver’s license. You know, our ability to drive legally awfully, since you were a teenagers, right? Congratulations. You know, I’ll give you a like what, when your insurance skyrockets, because you get two tickets, four tickets, and the tickets for this tickets for that in the accident, you should have a driver’s license. You should, you know what grass you go to, wherever you are going, you are irresponsible where that piece of technology of the vehicle is in a way, a piece of technology, right?
0 (15m 8s):
Especially if you have a Tesla. So, you know, I’m, I’m sorry, you’re not responsible with it. Same thing with like what Joshua said right now you have the ability to turn it off. You have the ability to block it. You have the ability to tell you the social media companies don’t show me this crap anymore. Right now of anybody is going to come and tell me what JT would have. You’re influenced by it. That’s a different conversation, dude. I mean, who the hell raised you? Who are you? If you are. And I’ve said this before and a Show, if you are literally have to have a person and you see something on social media, you’re like, Oh my God, I really want to buy this. You might have a different problem. It’s one thing to say, Oh, this is cool. I might buy that one day and it’s Oh, bye bye. I sat on a social media, buy social media buyer. You have a different problem.
0 (15m 49s):
Okay. So anyways, that’s the way I would kind of put it, right? You have to be responsible with what are in the world, a world without expecting for a government or in this case, big social media companies to come and tell you what you should and shouldn’t see how you should basically be. And Liv as a human. I think again, since a very dangerous message, but whenever I’ll leave it there, cause then we can talk about this all day. And Josh has a more series and more important story. So let’s go to that next.
2 (16m 22s):
So I’m sure that we’ve already all heard about what’s being happening, happening in the Capital. I think it was last week or the week. Yeah, it was last week. Wasn’t it? So basically the cap, if anyone has not been watching the news or is just being completely living off the grid until this moment now, and in the United States, there was a incursion, not an invasion, an incursion of the capsule. Okay. And this was mostly done reportedly by supporters of the rights or Trump basically a lot of people who believe in the stop, the account campaign or stop account Protest.
2 (17m 4s):
But in the News I just came up today. I saw BLM activist involved in Capital incursion and has been arrested and charged. Okay. So that was actually reported by the Western journal. And the department of justice has also reported a black lives matter. Activists who faces challenges in Utah over a counter protest. He allegedly led against a pro-police group has been arrested and charged in connection with last week’s incursion of the capital. And furthermore, the department of justice also said that Sullivan was charged with unlawful entry, disorderly conduct and attempted obstruction of law enforcement in last week’s incursion.
2 (17m 49s):
So this guy, well, his name’s already out there. So I’m just going to say his name is John L. Sullivan, his home address. Now we don’t have a home address. I don’t know his name is John L. Sullivan. He’s from Utah is the founder of the group called insurgents USA, which says its goals are to end police brutality and to empower and uplift black and indigenous voices. Okay. On paper sounds. Okay. So you know, it wasn’t Only people from the REIT or the alt-right or with there, what, what were they called? Prowl boys or anything like that? They weren’t the only ones who were there, that what people in the left as well. So what was he doing there?
2 (18m 29s):
Exactly. It sounds like he was basically trying to, to put it in a not very nice way. He was basically that’s try and steal shit. Yeah,
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Exactly. And what I saw that as well, exactly what I saw that as
2 (18m 40s):
Well. He’s basically just to try and get a rise out of people and trying to, you know, stash it up. That happens. That that’s what happens when there’s one ideology that there’s going to be a counter ideology. Okay. So, and then we move actually on to the, the same story, but another report. But this one is from the New York post. This one actually made me laugh. I was having a laugh with JT about the way this was a, this was worded and left wing activist charged and claiming he was in DC to document the riot. Okay. So its, I just always liked the way that a, there are some S there are certain news outlets that
0 (19m 19s):
We try to kinda like you just said it right now, stir the pot. Right. Trying to get a rise out of, out of people. And I think that, that doesn’t really know a lot of these, you know, that social media companies, including a, these news outlets, they do a really good job of putting that in front of you. Right. But again, that didn’t go away. What I said earlier in the previous story, you have to use that critical thinking and saying, okay, I see past your BS, I see what you’re trying to do and get to the, to the, really, to the juice of the story and not be led or influenced by the, the headline. Right? Like in this case now, to be fair, by the way. Cause I did, I did a dig a little bit into this one as well, myself as Josh share to the guy was err, essentially to appear.
0 (20m 5s):
And the key is part of the Protest the same Protest and there is a allegedly, okay, right now, because I have not seen it. Some people that witness him actually even going as far as wearing a Maga hat or a MAGA hat, whatever, which is the, you know, the maker of America. Great again had the Trump hat. I mean the Republican hat, whatever fricking name you want to call it, the red hat. Right. And you know, obviously the guy is a, a person that has been known now as a, as a member of the black lives matter movement. Now, as I’ve always said, and I’ve said it before, and there is always going to be bad actors that join, you know, movements that have good behind them.
0 (20m 48s):
Right. There’s always going to be people that want to join because they want to, you know, stir shut up, you know, because they, they find it as a, as a, as a reason to either prove that the movement is what, you know, the opposition is saying, which in this case, you know, him joining the, the Protest is saying, Oh, see everybody at the, at the riot, you know, was, was, was violent. You know, it’s, it’s not just a, it’s not just a few people sitting there protesting, like you just said, stop the account. You know, in fact, the article on here says once inside of the Capitol, he tells a protestors, we got to get this S right.
0 (21m 30s):
Burned. Like he was literally trying to incite the other people there to help him burn the, the Capitol building down. Right.
2 (21m 38s):
Pretty much yeah. Throwing gas on the fire, like we said in there.
0 (21m 42s):
So I don’t know, man. I mean, I mean, what do you, what’s your take? What, what, what should a diss, you know, serve as proof that BLM is bad. As some people want to hope it does.
2 (21m 56s):
Oh God. I mean that, this is, I love it. So extreme in America. It’s great. Isn’t it? It’s just like, as soon as one person from one movement does something wrong, it makes the whole movement bad. I mean, this guy. Yeah. He was a BLM activist. That’s correct. It doesn’t take anything away from the good work that BLM has done. I’m not going to say that the good work it is the riots, all that, or, you know, the police rights that happened in the latter part of last year or anything like that. No, not at all. I’m I’m, I’m more of a antiviolence kind of guy like any kind of fighting should be, might just not allowed unless it’s like for sport, like boxing, nothing further than that.
2 (22m 37s):
Right. But I don’t know. It’s a tough one. I mean that what the guy was doing was wrong. There’s no other way to put it. I think in my eyes, what the guy was doing was wrong. Trying to incite that kind of violence. You just gotta let them do it themselves. Cause they would have done it any week.
0 (22m 54s):
No, absolutely. Absolutely. I mean a w here’s what I’ll say to that too. Right? How would you like to say at the time about the other side, right? Whatever we’re talking about the other side. So in this case, I would say that the same defense, right. That is presented on behalf of BLM and saying, Hey, don’t judge that movement by The the actions of this moron is the same stuff that I tell people all the time to think about the other side, you know, whatever that moment is called, right. There are a movement that say we are, we are more, I don’t know, on the conservative side. And we don’t stand by the shitty actions of these people that you see sometimes punching other people, spitting, you know, a scene at the same guys, you know, you have to, you know, be E even in balance, when you, when you see these movements in.
0 (23m 47s):
And that’s mainly why, when we talked about this story, I was a gal thumbs up ’cause this is going to get people again, either of two mindsets saying, Oh, all you see their BLM is evil, which is now that I’m. And if anything, to teach people, anybody, that’s gonna say something similar to what you just said, Josh, about, Hey, one, one idiot. Shouldn’t stand for the whole team. Exactly. Right. So when you see the other side, say the same thing, remember this story, remember that story, right? Because by the way, also using that critical thinking that this is this one guy that got caught, we don’t know if he was there with someone else.
0 (24m 27s):
Usually these morons don’t know don’t, don’t attend by themselves usually. Right. Because you know, there aren’t, you know, they, they act tough in front of cameras, but really, you know, there’s no, you know, there is no bull as they are. They, you know, they always have a little friend, Hey, you wanna go with Me dude, you wanna, you know, you wanna, you know, come along. So whoever tagged alarm, obviously it doesn’t sound like they were probably caught again. That’s my prediction. I don’t think the sky went out there by himself. Cause I see it all all the time and I am I’m involved in News. So, so often that I see, you know, the, the leaked video is a Tik TOK videos and there’s, there’s always a group there’s always at least to, you know, I, if not more so, or that could have just been there more people that are from, from past BLM protest, you know, now, you know, like Josh said, you know, I stirring up shit now pretending to be part of this insurrection as a calling it.
0 (25m 19s):
Yeah. Yeah. Of course. You know, of course. Yes. Yes. But they still don’t speak for the whole movement of BLM. So that’s just something to keep in mind. Right. When you guys next time, you guys have an argument with someone online and saying, well, yeah, but that guy, you see that guy who was with the, what? The, what the, I think they call them the Patriots. Right? That the other, the other side. Oh, see, they’re a violent. No, is he old? They’re violent or are you talking about the entire movement? Because in the same sentence you can say, Oh, but that doesn’t apply for this because BLM is great, but this guy’s an idiot. Right. You gotta, and it was, you know what I’m talking about, right?
2 (25m 60s):
Yeah, exactly. I mean, that’s the thing is like a, we got to use that. Like you always say not to put it in critical thinking, I’m holding it now. The critical, critical thinking thing that, that, well, it’s funny because the first, well, both articles, but the headline, they use the BLM or left wing, they didn’t actually name the group that this guy was also a part of, which is insurgents USA, which is probably the group he was acting on that day. I he wasn’t acting in the name of BLM. He wasn’t acting in the name of the Democrats. Right. He probably wasn’t even acting in the name of himself. John L. Sullivan. He was acting in the name of insurgence USA. Right.
2 (26m 39s):
And that is probably a group which incites, well, it tries to incite, you know, some kind of reaction early and clearly, clearly,
0 (26m 49s):
Well, I don’t know that. That’s my final thought. What about you?
2 (26m 54s):
Yeah, I’m over it. I’m over it.
0 (26m 58s):
That’s it for today guys. I think that’s how we have for the show for today. Thank you for coming back in and watching these, these, these clips. I really want to know, and I’m not kidding here. I’m going to be going to be cliche. I genuinely wanna know. And I think a Josh shared the same sentiment, leave something down below. It always helps to see some guidance from people in saying, Oh, you know, we liked it is to talk to us about more about this. I’ve actually had a comment to people is in, have you heard about this? And then I will talk about that same topic or story, you know, a couple of videos later, it helps, right? As much as we can have the gear, as much as we can have an outlet, we don’t know everything. And it also helps to build a community, right.
0 (27m 38s):
To have a conversation that genuinely is a conversation. So I’m not saying drop a comment just to be cliche items. I’m literally saying, Hey, give us your thoughts, give us your opinions, give us some guidance to see what, you know, what else we can do as we progressively grow the show and you know, at, at, at a gas or just, you know, different topics. Right. So yeah. That’s it for me, Josh? Anything else?
2 (28m 0s):
Yeah. Well, just like you said, like leave a comment, send us a message on any of the social media is like a, like Instagram before they block us again or Facebook or any, anything else just send or send us an email, you know, just getting in contact with us. Cause it’s all about having conversations. The Show not always about having the same point of view, but if you can talk to us, even if it’s just a hint comment that says to you, I’d like to know why
0 (28m 24s):
I like that. So you just saved me that, that middle finger motioning. That would be nice to just play playing. All right guys. Thanks for watching. And until next time, see ya.
