This is a very special episode as it’s our very first show interview, Just as promised, here is the show in which we talk about many things around the Save The Children movement. We go from a toy to Disney “jokes” that their cartoonists have admitted to subliminally inserting into the movies we have grown up with in the past, and even some in modern times. Platforms like Facebook have paid “news” sources such as USA TODAY, and HUFFPOST to write clean-up articles on behalf of those “artists”.
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Okay. So why is there a button down here on her privates?
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Good morning, good afternoon. Or good evening, depending on when you’re tuning in. My name is Jonathan Torres Herrera, and you are watching or listening to the JTA show today. Let’s talk about hashtag save the children, but first Rowley, Andrew
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All right, everybody in as a general reminder, remember, you can catch the entire podcast on one of the major platforms, either Spotify, a Bodcast Google podcast or radio public. Okay. So you know, this video came about something. I came across the, the video that you saw at the beginning of the show where, you know, it was a, it was a video for those of you guys listening that essentially shows somebody that went to the store, got a toy off the shelf and kind of ripped it open.
1 (1m 49s):
It looks like they’re still inside the store. And they did that because, you know, it looks like they were probably going and checking out, maybe something they saw themselves online somewhere or heard about. And it was about a doll. And for that matter, a doll that is supposed to represent a sort of famous, you know, enemy or rather a cartoon, or I don’t know, we call it nowadays animation, whatever it is, a kid’s movie, the trolls. Right. And it, what she does is essentially show you that there is a button that she’s shocked to find that is seen in the, what you would call, I guess, supposed to say the private area of the doll.
1 (2m 31s):
Right. And when you push it, it makes noises. So, you know, naturally it caught my attention, the hatchet hashtag I’ve seen it around and this specific video was attached to that, you know? So I’m like, okay, you know, let’s see if maybe it’s like, you know, something that someone decided to do a prank on or something just to get famous skeezy. No, you, you see that, you see that a lot. Right. So I started digging and going down this rabbit and of course I came across all these crazy videos.
1 (3m 2s):
However, I came across a, an interesting one that went more, I guess, in depth with the, with a doll. It wasn’t just at the store, looked like they had it maybe in their desk somewhere. So that’s the next video we’re going to show. So let’s roll that
0 (3m 15s):
Down. Here is a button right here on her privates. And if you push those, she makes these sounds
1 (3m 29s):
Okay. So, all right. Yeah. Right. It’s clearly there. Right. And maybe the first radio they didn’t do just, but this one is Claire’s daylight, same doll, you know, you can clearly see where the button is located now, before I go deep down where, you know, where my thought was at, or my, my thoughts rather are at, with this whole thing gets frizz first go to a, a news article that USA today covered. And, you know, on this, in my opinion, and from my perspective, of course, you see USA basically saying, Oh, you know, fact checking, right?
1 (4m 7s):
That’s like the, the headline of the article, fact-check troll doll button in private and quotations area, not intentional, or part of kids, quote unquote grooming. Right? So you saw the video there of the little doll, you know, that the article goes on to say, you know, like a social media uproar and a breakdown of like everything surrounding the doll, you know, what character is as opposed to be portraying at the end. What I found interesting is the fact that you have the, the USA USA today saying we’re fact checking, and they’re saying, you know, it’s partly false.
1 (4m 49s):
And allegedly, the reason they’re saying that is partly balls is because, well, there’s a guest. They don’t, they don’t really say why they break down everything, including the, the toy manufacturers comment Hasbro saying, Hey, we didn’t really realize that the, the button wasn’t an appropriate placing. I guess they even went as far as saying that the person, the voice, the, the, the toy, I guess they’re like, Oh, you know, they didn’t say anything harsh against Hasbro. Of course, nobody’s gonna want to lose her job over this.
1 (5m 19s):
But yeah, it was totally inappropriate. I’m happy they’re taking it off the shelf kind of thing. And then again, here in front of me, you can see the them saying, Oh, you know, our research shows that the dolls does have a giggle button located a giggle quote, unquote giggle button located in the area that could be referred to as near a private part. It would be misleading. However, to suggest that the design was deliberately linked to grooming children for sex, Hasbro says that the binds placement was not intentional, but recognizes.
1 (5m 50s):
They may be perceived as inappropriate. Right. And then they say, they’re, it’s partly partially for falls. So, you know, again, because I went down this rabbit hole, you know, I continue going through, you know, many other instances, can you toss this one off as, Hey, it happens, you know, is a airhead moment of the designers. Sure. But I know from also going and doing my own research that most toys specifically, those toys are usually gonna be priced in the area North of nine, nine, nine, 29, nine, and above, you know, anywhere, anywhere in that range, they automatically go through through what you would consider to be quality control, both for design, and also for, you know, once it’s actually manufactured, especially with, and a half things like, you know, like sensors and stuff like that, where this dog here, by the way, and I’ll show you the doll very quickly, not only has a, you know, a sensor near the tummy.
1 (6m 51s):
Right. But it also has that button. Right. And here, let me roll that other clip again. So you can see how the lady again shows you the different sensors to have.
0 (7m 7s):
So why is there this?
1 (7m 10s):
Okay, so you saw that there, right. You know, it has, again, the tummy one, it appears maybe even the foot somewhere, and then literally it’s the, I mean, you call it the Butman, that’s what it is, you know, and yeah, they’re saying that the it’s because of, you know, your support, you’re meant to sit the doll down and it’s supposed to do those noises. Now, obviously parents specifically in this case are finding it very disturbing because, you know, Hey, I’m going to give this, this doll to my kid and allegedly in the box, it didn’t say anything about this, you know, hidden button.
1 (7m 44s):
Other than when they’re going to sit, the doll somewhere is supposed to make these whining noises, not even saying full sentences, right. Or something, a phrase out of the movie is just, again, the noises you heard. So, you know, you’re get, you’re going to have people on both sides of the aisle. My opinion, I think one, in my opinion is gonna be maybe louder than the other. And you know, that’s, the IO is saying, this is BS. Again, going back to my whole, you know, there’s a process control to this toy manufacturers.
1 (8m 16s):
You know, they, they invest a lot of money into making a lot of money. So they’re careful way at the know what licenses they’re paying for whatever movies are trying to make toys for specifically, Hasbro, come on. It has pros, you know, Barbie, I mean all these other toys, right? They’re huge. You’re, you’re going to tell me that, Hey, we just get whatever design and just kinda throw it on a, on a, on a molding machine and then just spit them out. Like nothing nobody ever sees them. Nobody. Cause it’s just, you know, we borrowed designs from other toys.
1 (8m 46s):
I try to look for maybe a bar design for that matter of this toy. And maybe if there’s another toy in relation to this, I couldn’t find anything. Cause it happens all the time. You know, you see a lot of action figures that they all very much looked the same and it’s because they use the same molding and they just paint on whatever they want on top. This one, not for this one, this one was very specific. Right. Another thing that I noticed, so you saw the story, right? The toy looks like this. Okay. You’re thinking that is the, again, the main character from trolls.
1 (9m 17s):
Right. And you’re like, yeah, Papi, I believe is the name wrong. This is actually poppy. You see the difference. Yeah. So yeah, there, there, there’s huge differences there. Why am I bring this up? Because you know, this is poppy, this is poppy and this is poppy. And in my opinion, this one is designed to look at it. My opinion again, different.
1 (9m 47s):
No, if you want to call it prettier, sort of, you know, on more humanlike, more baby, like, I don’t know. It’s just weird. There’s a big difference between the actual care during what the character looks like. And then what this doll was designed to look, right. So obviously with this, now the problems are coming up. I mean, they’re pretty, pretty obvious, but you know, for those of you guys listening with the button near the bottom is that, you know, you’re going to give it to a child and they’re going to be pressing on that button and then potentially be lean.
1 (10m 24s):
I get okay to do that to each other, for someone to do that to them. I mean, the hypothetical’s can go on and on and they can get really dark, really ugly, really fast specifically with everything that’s going on right now, again, with the hashtag save the children. Right. You know, there’s, a lot of people are going to say, be open minded, come on, you’re looking into this again, the other side of the aisle, right. Refusing to maybe see what concerned parents might look, you know, we’ll be looking at, you know, and that’s fine.
1 (10m 55s):
You know, that’s okay. They can say that, you know, we’re reading too much into this. So with that in mind, you know, I decided to go further into, you know, let’s just see if this is just, you know, you know, secluded just to these toys. Right. Which of course it’s not. So let’s look at real quick at something from Disney. And a lot of you guys might’ve arraigned have heard or seen this and if you haven’t well brace for impact. So for this particular article that I found, it was about the HuffPost and you know, the, the main title reads finally the truth about Disney’s hidden actual messages revealed.
1 (11m 36s):
Now, in my opinion, you would hope that anybody that it considers himself to be a repeatable source of information like the HuffPost, right? Cause they’re by no means a small unknown, you know, website with a few hundred, you know, subscribers like maybe, you know, Mike, my, my San Diego Dewana times.com page, right? No, no, no. The Huff post is as well known. So in the whole article, of course, what do they do? They did, you know, assembly a cleanup, post, a cleanup spread.
1 (12m 7s):
They do tell you about every single, well, not every single, but many of the known instances where people have said, Hey, Disney, you know, what they have is this and caught him, you know, I’m doing maybe some subliminal messaging and every single one, at least in their article is like, Oh, this is why in explanation. Literally it says an explanation, including pudding jifs about oops. And you know, yeah.
1 (12m 38s):
Akuna Matata. Jeff’s like saying, Oh, it’s okay. Happens. Now, the funny thing that I found weight towards the end, there is a guy, his name is Tom and this is the guy, right? He wasn’t, he’s in, been in animation for years and he’s responsible for some of the oopsies. Right? I have happened. Now, the funny thing that it’s article COTA, Mon, I guess they interviewed him is he comes out and says the following very, very straightforward specifically in reference to an oopsie, right.
1 (13m 13s):
Or an inside joke as he calls it, that occurred where, where Jessica rabbit and the movie, Roger rabbit, you have the, the animated figure kinda stone from the, from, from a, from a car and you can clearly see down her dress. Right. And she is not wearing anything underneath the dress. Now it’s a couple frames. Right. And you know, only people that would, you know, I guess digged it frame by frame again, as he says, would have caught that later on, they, they remove that digitally.
1 (13m 44s):
So the article reads in part says towards the end here, the appearance appearances can be deceiving, but reportedly not in this case, according to variety, there was a run of copies of the movie. After the word got out that the nanometers had Jessica rabbit appear without underwear. A few frames later, additions of Roger rabbit were reportedly digitally altered to give miss rabbit appropriate coverage. Those cidal didn’t confirm that the scandalous scene, he explained that adding inside jokes into older films, wasn’t considered a big deal.
1 (14m 21s):
He said, you know, in pre video and previa, chess and VCR and stuff, people used to put little inside jokes into films because things were running at one 24th of a second set cidal. So you say, well, nobody’s seen anything and then soak our Tunis. Right? He says, we’ll do that as a joke. But really since the modern age of playing back stuff and everything, they look at everything.
1 (14m 52s):
Now, even the old films, they’ll go frame by frame and they’ll put those questionable things out all the time, right? At the end, it reads when asked if he’d share any other inside jokes or hidden sexual humor, Seidel laughed. Well, if there was, he said, I’m not telling it gives people something to do on a rainy day. And the article closes off with now that it’s what we call a happy ending, wink again, you know, this is already kind of throwing out there, you know, you know, just, you know, we’re on the topic already of having Xenos from sexual references.
1 (15m 36s):
And I think that’s how I took it from the HuffPost, right. Again, a cleanup article and by the way, on the other article, and I’ll go back to it real quick, the USA post today, when I found there at the end, where if you read or write, as they put their fact check sources, they put our fact check work is supported in part by a grant from Facebook. I can say, well, JT, what has had to do with anything? Let’s think about it for a second. What are some of the platforms consistently, you know, point out for suppressing, any kind of hashtag that possibly can expose pedals or, you know, they call it conspiracy theories, right.
1 (16m 19s):
But yeah. Pedals off their outline, right? If you would have put hell five, four, six years, who knows years back something about Epstein, hell, have you do that right now? I think you’ll get suppressed. You’ll get, you know, the video gets taken down because it’s going to be automatically flagged as a conspiracy theories. If anything, this video might do that on YouTube. But Facebook right is consistently is one of the top known platforms to do that among their social media apps, including Facebook in itself, a what’s up and Instagram.
1 (16m 50s):
Right? So what do they do? They go and write a, they go sponsor rather, you know, the USA today to, to say, Hey, write an article, basically, you know, fact checking this doll. So we can basically plaster it all over our website. Every single time, anybody couldn’t, you know, small creators, my creators like me do videos. If we can say, Oh, just references article. This is, you know, fact checking by the USA today, which we paid for it. In my opinion, it’s a bunch of baloney. You tell me what you think in the comments envelope, but okay.
1 (17m 22s):
Let’s move on to another little, two examples, rather that I found very interesting. You know, the first one is the movie Hercules and you tell me if you see what I see. So first let’s roll that clip. Okay. So maybe you don’t see it. Maybe you do see it. You know, I saw a, a bulging area that they’re resembles the organs of a, of a male. And I’m being PG here as much as I can because I don’t know whose kids might be listening and I’m not going to contradict what I’m trying to say here.
1 (17m 56s):
But that’s what it resembles. Right? It resembles the bulging body parts of a man, all of them, you know what you would call shaft, twigs and berries of you may, including what keeps spinning to look like a ring, slow it down. As much as you want, look at it. You can tell me JT, come on, man. You know, now you’re just looking for it. Okay. I mean, it’s been called out by other people, not just me, you know, I didn’t go watch all the Disney movies just to find things, you know, I literally put a couple of keywords on YouTube.
1 (18m 29s):
Boom videos popped up all over the place. Right. So other people are seeing it too. But if that’s not enough for you, let’s go to another kid’s movie. Basically. This is out of a movie from happy feet. So those were all that Clippers
0 (18m 43s):
1 (18m 58s):
Okay. So, you know, in that clip, you see the two main characters essentially pose in different ways. Three total that I counted that would be probably considered very sexually inclined. Right? If you had per se, two naked bodies doing those same poses, JT, come on their animals. It happens. Oh, does it now? Oh, I mean, I’ve never seen it, not even on the, and I’ve seen plenty of, you know, in the wild TV shows, natural geographic.
1 (19m 35s):
I’ve never seen, I mean, you see the real thing because they’re animals and that happens. But you know, all these like, Oh, poses, whatever you, again, both two sides of this aisle, you know, you’re going to have people saying you’re reading into it, whatever. I don’t even care and good for you. Good, good for you. However, I do see it. And many other people see it as well. Right? When it comes down to these craters, and again, you just heard mr. Sidell on an article saying, yeah, we do these hidden jokes, hidden jokes.
1 (20m 8s):
That’s what they’re putting it out as, right. It’s, it’s a hidden joke. God, you’re slowing down things and now you’re pointing them out all over the place. You’re ruining it for the rest of us. So that when I was talking to my wife today about this, you know, she had her opinions about it. And she was like, yeah, I mean, until you told me, I kind of now see it. And I mentioned to her, you know, many of the times you’ll go into these into the watching these movies, you know, not thinking about it. You know, in fact here let’s put these Disney clips that you might have never seen because you’re just going into these movies, watching them, you know, maybe even as a kid, as it inner kid, maybe not really paying attention, not really understood standing the messaging behind it.
1 (20m 53s):
Right. You have a, the one from supposedly Ratatouille where for, for a couple of frames, there is a man inside painting, naked women. And then you have the classical, a little mermaid, original cover box that has again a male body part in it. And that one was by the way, owned up to and said, yeah, the, there was a disgruntle artist. You can Google it yourself. And then you have the very classic, literally a rescue, a rescue from done under the, the two little mice flying over.
1 (21m 23s):
And then, you know, again for a few friends there wasn’t right. So, you know, you have all these instances where you have, you can say creators behaving badly. And unfortunately the brick brands are suffering well, here’s, here’s the way I look at it. One, the big brands, it’s their responsibility to QA all this. Right? You hear it all the time that even movies are, are, are on hold because the big executive, I don’t like little things. I mean, you hear that when, you know, when it’s convenient, they, they, you know, they say Dell, the executives executives, and then when it’s not, it’s like all disgruntled, you know, disgruntled employees, you know, the sido guy ha play in his jokes damn side.
1 (22m 3s):
Oh, you, you know, you’re rascal. And it’s a come on until how long are re in a mean by me and anybody like me and with children that really don’t want appreciate. And even if you don’t have children, you know, going to take this, this, this crap, right. From these creators, pushing all that, you know, however they can with these insights jokes right on us, because it’s like, you know, yeah, we a film and none of this belongs on anything that I just mentioned when there are more adult, you know, references on even like Avengers movies.
1 (22m 38s):
You’re like, well, you know, it’s still sort of a good kid’s movie, but Hey, I understand it’s meant to be more based on reality. And you know, it’s really, you know, targeted more for PG 13 and above. I mean, sure if little kids, you know, watch it, you know, it’s really up to parent and Oh, I get it. It’s not actual PG movies. So they dropped, it, did an app. I’m here the S bomb there, whatever this, this is none of them, nothing that I just showed you is that all these are straight up PG, you know, men a watch him from, from babies all the way to whatever, right.
1 (23m 9s):
Older kids. And again, with all these, you know, things in there, all these jokes that they’re calling them. And in my opinion, like going back to it, a Sonia, when my wife, I was telling her, this is when it comes down to the triggers. You are, you haven’t seen this on nothing. I didn’t, I don’t say this people much smarter than the have said this before. And I’ve read it. You know, from, from books, we are basically a bag of emotions. And at any given point, those bag of emotions get triggered by the outside world.
1 (23m 40s):
And I mean, anything in the world, a lot of people are either too lazy to undereducated realize this. So we hope that every child out there in the entire world is hopefully living the best childhood. They can possibly, you know, have a free of, of any of this trash or worse. But unfortunately that’s not the reality. And unfortunately, some of the times you do have irresponsible or guardians that, you know, a PG 13 or a rated R movie will be shown to the same kid that watches Aladdin or watches, Hercules, or watches.
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The, any of the movies that I just showed and triggers because her a bag of emotions and children are not, the exception will be triggered by whatever they’re watching, they’re absorbing, and then being triggered by that. And then when you have children that start talking about those rated R topics, or maybe even NC 17 level topics at 11, 12, some parts of society try to say, well, that’s just the world we live in. Let it be. And then at the same, you know, on the same, you know, a time people are like, man, how can we fix his?
1 (24m 50s):
Is dammit, teenage pregnancies. Where do you think starts from what they’re exposed to? No. Anybody, can you Mark me as a, you know, as a helicopter parent, as a parent, that shields her kid, Hey, listen, it’s my responsibility to not only do it for my kids, but bring it to light, like in this case and say, Hey, this is some of the stuff that you’re kicking be potentially exposed to. That may be that you’re too busy to not notice or just, you know, haven’t really been, you know, kind of like shown that this is out there.
1 (25m 23s):
It’s not just someone reading into it. There are actual animators. Yeah. It’s an inside joke. Right. But again, going back to my, the point that I’ve been repeating, there’s going to be people on both sides of the aisle. I’m interested in knowing where you stand. I’m interested in knowing if you see what I see, if you don’t think, if you don’t agree, that’s fine. I would definitely love to know because, well, let’s face it. This is not the last time. Something like this is going to happen. And, you know, either things like this are going to make the hashtag save the children stronger because it saved the children.
1 (25m 58s):
It’s a very diverse hashtag is not just for the trafficking of children. It’s not just for the, the clear, you know, you know, as clear as daylight instances where, you know, there are, there are people like Jeffrey Epstein who has been to have been prosecuted for child trafficking. No, it, it that’s also includes anything that potentially that can, you know, that can be damaging to children, you know, including suburbs, liminal messaging, right. Whether it be in music or clearly in, in, you know, the movies and entertainment that they’re exposed to.
1 (26m 33s):
Right. Including obviously the toy Zoe, the reason the whole them videos about. So anyways, guys, let me know, know the comments on below, you know, what is your opinion? You know, I definitely want to hear other perspectives and I definitely want to hear, you know, if you guys think I’m online with this, let me know really, if you can take just two minutes to, to let me know, you know, or give me a thumbs up, at least tell me that. Yeah. I agree with you. If you, if you don’t want to type in a couple of characters in there other than that, thanks for watching today. I’m sorry to be just another heavy, heavy hearted topic, but I needed to get it out there.
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